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Advice needed for all-mtn. ski, eastern use -- mid 80's, or mid 90's?

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I will be taking my Mythics out west soon and leaving them in Calgary for use when I ski Banff and the nearby BC resorts.  To replace them, I am looking to get an all-mountain ski for use primarily here in the east, with perhaps the occasional trip west to places other than Banff.  With the new wider ski designs becoming more and more versatile for hard snow use, I'd like some feedback as to whether a mid-90's ski would do the trick, or if I should stick to a mid- to high-80's board.

My instinct is the latter, to optimize for possible ice and crusty hard snow.  But if there is a 94mm+ ski that is equally agile and can hold on hard snow and scraped off ice patches, then I'm all ears.  The only ski in that width I have any experience on is the Sultan 94, which has a definite western bias.  All others have been in the 85 to 88mm range.  In reading the reviews, there are a number of mid-80's skis that have real integrity on icy slopes and are supposed to be a blast on groomers, but none that I have read about in the 94 and up size.

My criteria, in short:

-- full camber, or a touch of early rise (no tail rocker)
-- torsionally stiff; moderate longitudinal flex; softer shovel; stiff tail is OK
-- moderate weight
-- 50/50 hard/soft snow versatility

FYI -- for length, if a mid-80's width, then I would go to a 185ish length to give me better float in soft snow; if a 94+ width, then probably ~178 if full camber, 180+ if early rise.

Looking forward to some feedback from anyone that has experience to share.


My short list, so far.  All 90mm or less.  In no particular order of preference.

-- Fischer Motive 84 C-Line
-- Nordica Jet Fuel (84mm)
-- Nordica Burner (84mm)
-- Nordica Steadfast (90mm)
-- Elan Apex (88mm)
-- Volkl Kendo (88mm; supposed to be be near-identical to the 10/11 Apex)
-- Dynastar Legend/Sultan 85
-- Head iM88, pre-2011 without Flowride, if I can still find one

As mentioned, I know of no 90mm+ ski that has good eastern snow cred.  Scott Crusade or Venture might be there, but there is little info on their hard snow /  ice abilities.

Any comments or feedback on the above most welcome.


Are you looking for a new eastern daily driver or a second ski that can used in better eastern conditons? While our home mountain conditions differ a little, it hurts my head (and knees) to think about skiing a wide, stiff ski on a daily basis on hard snow. I've been considering looking at an alternative to my Kastle 88's as I've just been spending too little time on them due to small mountain I ski. Admittedly, I'm also biased toward skis that make shorter radius turns and that are responsive to tipping movements. We've not skied together (and that need to change next season) but it only makes sense to ski a wider ski if one likes just crusing via larger GS type turns. Don't even want to think about icy bumps on fat skis.

Don't get me wrong, I've had some great days on the 88's, and they have expanded my fun zone, but, lack of precision and quickness is a detriment.

Sorry, but I can't offer any thoughs regarding your possible selecitons as they are from a classificaion that just does not work for me...    I'd prefer to take a narrower carver into soft snow and light pow rather than fight a fat board on hard snow. That's only my view, others will surely disagree.

If it actually is a second ski in the eastern quiver, forget all that I said. :P :P

Hi Mike,

Sorry, I should have clarified:  this is to be the wider part of an eastern quiver.  I have two narrow skis -- the Progressor 9, and the Nordica Mach 3, one of which I may be parting company with.  This leaves a quiver gap, with the Mythics making their way to a second home out west (sister-in-law's house in Calgary).  I would really like a wider ski for days of eastern "powder", and the frequent crud and junk that follows a snowfall on our local hill, as well as trips to Quebec, Lake Placid, etc..  For these conditions, I really don't need anything wider than, say, 85mm or so.  But I may also take junkets to Utah, Wyoming, BC interior, in which case having a wider ski at hand would be gold.  So, having said that, if there is a 90mm+ ski that can handle eastern hard snow and ice, and have some off-piste ability too, then I'd certainly consider it.

As for skiing together, how about coming to Banff in April with Gary and I? Conditions should be great until mid- to late May.  My wife skied Louise and Sunshine last May 9 to 14, and nary a melting snowflake to be seen.  Full-on winter conditions.  Amazing.  Best part, it's probably no farther to fly to than Denver.  Got passport, will travel!

Steadfast really really sweet ski. Personally I would go carver and a 100mm ski and if you wanted something in between get the steadfast.  I do not know your home area though if it has tree skiing the 88mm skis are nearly useless compared to 98mm class skis they simply are not quick enough compared to the 98mm ski.

it skis as if the bushwacker and the Kendo had a love child that exceeds both of them in performance.


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