Author Topic: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review  (Read 2570 times)

Johnny2R

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Re: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2012, 09:18:51 am »
The Crusade is a crud buster extraordinaire with a super tight 15m radius for the 179cm (but it's not hooky at all due to the advanced tip geometry).  Both skis are up on eBay quite often for cheap.  They're a steal at any price, but at sub $500 prices they're one heck of a good bang for the buck.

Curious coincidence! I was just raving about these skis in another thread: http://www.realskiers.smfnew.com/index.php/topic,1983.0.html

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Re: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 10:53:19 am »
How does it hold up in crud and chop?

Well, I've skied it in a lot of difficult and challenging snow (and in a lot of great snow as well).  So I'd say, For the way I ski, it handles crud/ chop pretty darn good.  It's light, but the tip will engage and slice a good edge through difficult snow.  It's very easy to pop around and to jump and play with in crud and chop.  It is really excellent in breakable crust (as far as skiing breakable crust can ever be called excellent).  When crud begins to turn to more solid 'crud bumps', it really skis well as it's flex and shape is very helpful in bumps.  It's not a ski that will bulldoze, blaze through, or tear up the heaviest of chop.  But, with a light touch and at speeds that are more moderate, it makes for a very capable and playful ski.

It does have a fairly pronounced speed limit in really heavy chop.  I would imagine that high speed arcs in PNW deep crud would not be it's forte.  The Shaman is the real world beater for that sort of skiing in those conditions.  But you already knew that.

What is really great about both these skis is that they handle groomed, or firmer snow very well...no, you won't confuse them for SuperShape, but you won't confuse them for a Bent Chetler either!  For medium to large arcs on spring snow, soft groomers or even average groomers, the Nomads are very peasant and capable of moderate angle carving.  For a mixed skiing day that has crud filled tree runs and long groomers back to the lift (and, like I said, especially for people who want a wider but also a non-rockered ski with traditional camber) these skis are great.




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Re: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 12:09:58 pm »
I am trying to ski at higher speeds off piste. I find that anything that is on the soft side just doesn't have enough stability to faciltate skiing at the faster speeds. I'm sure it's a really fun ski and I am a huge fan of the Shaman. My bet is that the Nomad regular would be a better ski for me.

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Re: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 12:24:24 pm »
oh yeah, without question the nomad regular makes more sense for what you're looking for. (The Big, steep, long spaces of Big Sky certainly suggest a stiffer ski for those who want to ski really fast).

Why did you buy the Ullr's Chariot??  Even from peter's Review I knew that it wouldn't hold a candle to to the Shaman in crud (or powder for that matter)?   You already own the sword you wanted.

Did you ever ski the old Stockli Stormrider DP pro??  I know someone who still uses this ski and says nothing, nothing ever trucked through big steep off piste snow with more stability at speed than these.  He has them in the 190 ish length...there must be some floating around out there on ebay worth looking into   (I'd like to ski the new Stormrider 95, but those, like the Kastles are just a little too pricey--but I bet you might like those for fast crud skiing).


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Re: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2012, 01:59:37 pm »
Now that I own the Chariots I'm not sure why I bought them ;)
I didn't expect them to be as floppy in crud.

I have skied the old DP Pro. Too fricking stiff as was the old Scot Schmidt model. The new ones are much less stiff, but still firm skis. They all have a very wide turn radius.

I also feel pretty confident that I should be able to ski most of what gets thrown at me with the skis that I already own. It's so easy to believe that a new ski will make it all easier and more fun. While all new skis are fun (if you like or love them) it's the skier and not the ski 90% of the time.


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Re: Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot Mini Review
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 04:53:12 pm »
HighAngles, didn't Scott change the construction of the Crusade this year? Making it lighter? Which year's model are you skiing? There's a pair of 2010's (the black ones) that I've been thinking of getting.

Sorry for the thread drift, but here's the quick answer.  Scott said that the 2011-12 Crusade (white ones) was lightened up, but I sure couldn't tell the difference.