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Kastle FX94 vs. Ski Logik Ullr's Chariot ski recommendation
mmiller:
I am real ...
I'm interested in thoughts on the Kastle FX94 vs Ski Logic Ullr's Chariot.? I've read the reviews for each on RealSkiers.? I've been skiing the Kastle MX78 for last two seasons, and just switched to the RX12.? I have been amazed with the Kastle's and thus I'm a bit biased towards the FX94s .... challenge is I've had them on order now for a couple of months and the current estimate is I'm not likely to get them until sometime in mid to late Sep.
jim-ratliff:
Miike:
Welcome.? There has been a lot of discussion about the Ullr's Chariot here.? See the thread not too far down
I bought a pair and really like them.? My priority was a ski that had a wider waist but didn't give up to much on the groomed slopes, and they have lived up to that.? They aren't a powder ski and they aren't a front side carver, but they do everything pretty well and seem to excel in skied up powder.? They are a pretty beefy in the way they ski, I need to be moving pretty good in order to really bend them on groomed slopes; on softer slopes the width of the tip helps a lot with the bending and they are pretty maneuvarable in trees and in soft snow.
I'm sure others will post with the Kastle feedback, but they seem to be universally great skis; if you like the feel of the MX78 it is likely that you will also like the feel of the FX94 and there is a lot to be said for that.? The FX might even be a little bit softer than the MX78.
Do you have the ability to demo.? Ski Logik has a few dealers, mostly in Colorado-- check out their web page.? Maybe you should check around other Kastle dealers to see if they have the same FX94 availability constraints.
jbotti:
Be careful with the FX line because it is designed differently than the MX line. I bought the FX 84 last year. It is a very nice ski but it isn't what I like in a ski. I should have bought a ski in the MX line. The FX is designed for backcountry skiing and they are lighter, have less metal and they are designed for the tips to hook up much slower (and they do!!). If you love the MX 78 you may not love the FX 94. You may be better off with the MX 98 or MX 88.
For me, the lightness was OK, but I was using it inbounds so I didn't need it and I like a heavier ski. The lack of meta was again OK, and the skis were reasonably stable at speed, but they were not unshakable at speed. At the end of the day, the delay in the tips hooking up just drove me crazy. I sold my skis. Don't get me wrong, it is a beautifully made ski and they did a super job of making a ligher but stable backcountry oriented ski. If that is what you are looking for, go for it. If you are looking for a wider MX 78, the FX is the wrong ski.
Jim is the resident expert on the Chariot and I have never skied it so I add less than zero there.
Hope that helps.
Ron:
the 78 is a superb ski as you know, the FX line was desgined and intended to be more of a touring descentist ski as the FX94 is Chris davenports design. As John correctly said, they are going to be much different in feel and performance. The mx88 is an option for sure, it really has all of the performance envelope of the fx94 but with the same basic feel and performance of the mx78. There is a new MX 90 something ski coming out next season i believe, Phil can talk more about that. Jim is the UC expert here.
mmiller:
Thank you for splitting my post out to a new thread and for the feedback. ?
The widest ski I've ever been on is the MX78. ?I added the Kastle RX12 this season (70mm) and want to get something for deeper powder days. ?I actually like the RX12 better in powder than the MX78, but so far it's mostly been light 5 to 10 inch powder days. ?I'm selling the 78s and just looking to add a ski for days when the powder is a little deeper. ?My days of hiking are behind me, but I've heard good things about the light, quick feel of the FX94 in the powder. ?I definitely will not be using it as an everyday ski.
I've worked with the same local shop (Sport Loft) in SLC for years. ?Their recommendations on equipment have been spot on, and they carry both the Ski Logik and Kastle. ?
The late engagement of the tips ... Is that just on groomed and light powder or is that in deeper powder (12+).
Additional background ... I'm 49 years old, spent most all of my 30s and 40s skiing with the kids and have just in the last few seasons gotten back out on my own, I'm skiing about 30 to 40 days a season, 5'10" and 160lbs. ?I'm sure I have some old, bad habits that I need to get rid of, but I'm having a great time all over the mountain ... I've been told I'm a solid 7 to 8, but I'm also really looking to get out with someone whose eye and ability to instruct is a lot more discerning. ?I had a lesson a few years ago at Park City, but It felt like the guy was more used to teaching beginners.
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