Author Topic: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84  (Read 809 times)

Ron

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2009, 09:44:40 am »
EEKKKK>...John.....your mind has gone to very scary places i see...

I'm almost thinking that since you're telling yourself they are the best skis you've ever skied...so your test may be so inclined.

Would you please entertain us with a review of your new FX84's....let me set the mood..

"I slapped my new FX84's into the snow.....a "RUMBLE OF COURDEROY" defied gravity and covered my pants...the skis lay there benath the surface at least 6 inches below the reach of the suns rays.....I click in and head for the lift....it's 9am, the test begins."

Ok John....it's all yours.... ::) g

Fixed it don't mind the spelling!

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2009, 05:42:29 pm »
John,

Did they arrive?


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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2009, 09:23:06 pm »
I'm not sure. You shipped them to my home in Montana. I will call on Monday and see if they came yet. Unfortunatley I don't get to fondle these until I get out there in December. Probably just as well. I need less things to make me drool about skiing, especially this time of year when I can taste it all day long!!

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2009, 05:47:46 pm »
Oh, thats right. You will like them.

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2009, 09:20:37 pm »
BTW, the skis arrived Friday. Thanks I am sure I will love them.

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2009, 05:24:16 am »

Peter names the Sultan the sultan :) 

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2009, 08:11:33 am »
Saw that it was his ski of the year. He has always been partial to Dynastar and Head skis. His all time favorite ski was the Intuitive 74. I also think the fact that the RX 84 costs almost twice as much the Sultan played a role in him selecting that over the FX. Clearly based on score cards, the FX should win. Once I ski my Kasltles I will need to get on the Sultan and compare. By then the FX 84 will be sold out, and if I want I will be able to buy the Sultan for 30% off. I smell arbitrage!! JB. 

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2009, 03:36:22 am »
you cane e-mal him for comment but I really hope the cost of the ski was not factored in. A test of a skis ability should have nothing to do with cost.

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2009, 08:51:00 am »
you cane e-mal him for comment but I really hope the cost of the ski was not factored in. A test of a skis ability should have nothing to do with cost.

I can see price playing into the overall value.

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2009, 10:15:28 am »
it reallty shouldn't.  so do you factor the MAP, MSRP or the lowest price you found at a shop?

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2009, 10:44:41 am »
I agree with your comments on cost conceptually. The reason that I think it is potentially included in his thinking is because Peter has always tried to find skis for the masses. His skis of the year are always skis that have excellent high end performance but that a solid intermediate can ski and enjoy. His skis of the year always have 10-20-race circled and they generally have icons for green blue and black. Having said this it may be that price did not play as much of a role as Kastle's limited distribution. It would make sense to me that the last thing he wants is to have a ski of the year that only 20% of the people that want to own it can buy it. This of course would augur for both price (expensive) and distrubution (very limited) playing a role.

Personally based upon my summation of his reasons, I think he made the right choice. Anyone that wants the sultan can get it right now for $659. My guess is that anyonne that buys it will like it and it will help their skiing. Hence Peter has a very satisfied custmer. If he gets his/her heart set on the RX 84, then can't find it or finds out that he/she can't afford it, the customer is less satisfied.

And of course not everyone has Phil who offered a great deal on a new hot ski!!

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2009, 11:45:27 am »
well, everyone should by both then!  :) 

My guess is that  maybe (and I don't know for sure) the Sultan is a little more versitle for soft snow with good groomed/hard snow performance  vs. The 84 may be better prerforming on the groomed and hard snow but not as versitile overall?

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2009, 12:32:41 pm »
I bought the Sultans purely because they were cheaper...? ? >:D
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 06:41:24 am by gregmerz »

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2009, 02:53:58 pm »
So we will wait for Greg's review on the Sultan and mine on the FX 84. Mine isn't coming til around Xmas because the skis were shipped to Monatana and I am not out there until 12/19. Maybe Greg will be on his soon.

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Re: Dynastar Sultan 85 vs Kastle FX 84
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2009, 06:38:55 am »
it reallty shouldn't.? so do you factor the MAP, MSRP or the lowest price you found at a shop?

Forget MSRP, MAP(Street Price) (With Kastle MSRP and MAP are the same) is more accurate in a comparison and not end of the season or firesale pricing. I think a "price dependent" and "price independent" clarification could be included.